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abhatia · Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 37

Is the ecoomic model China has created for itself good for China?

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jaehyouk · Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 6

Although nowadays, China is definitely considered as one of the economically strongest country in the world, China does not know about the side effects that they are risking. To earn his or her family living, majority of Chinese people have to sacrifice themselves. Poor treatment and inadequate working environment are making the workers sick in both mind and body. Workers' thoughts are slowly getting contaminated by rebellious feeling and soon the pressure would go off the limit and their anger would get unleashed. Obviously after that happens, China would be no longer one of the strongest. To prevent that from happening Chinese government must take a good care of their citizens and respect them as a human being. However, China is now too deceived by the numbers on the sheet called profit to think about other things.

dsachs2013 · Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 6

I have to say that the economic model China has created is good for China but not as good for its people. The newfound wealth means that China is a major player in the world market. As the reading mentions they are the new role models instead of the USA. They are the ones helping other countries out. Having this power is a good thing. It allows them to not be fought against. The only reason why I say it is not as good for the people is that they are being used to make this new wealth. They are also being pushed aside when another country comes to China. Since China has so much power it is unreasonable to ask them to stop censoring the Internet. Basically, it is a good thing for the country because it makes it well respected but it also forces the people to the side and makes it seem like they don’t matter.

Ikrieger2012 · Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 18

I agree with Daniel that China’s model is good for itself as a whole nation but not for its people. However, I disagree that China’s model making them a role model for other nations is a good thing. The nations that the reading lists as enthusiasts of China’s model are developing nations, and by far not the most powerful nations in the world (no offense to them). I think that being a role model for developing nations does not mean that China is coming across great economic success in a global scale, otherwise nations such as the United States, England, France and Germany and other powerful western countries would be impressed and awed by China’s development--which they are not. With that being said I do think that China has allowed itself to grow more so than it has ever in the past.

efitzpatrick · Joined: 02 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: United States

China's current economic model follows the capitalist model of risk equals reward, the higher the risk, the greater the chance for reward. The previous economic model was rock solid, but had no growth. The communist system on paper means that everyone is successful AND their success is stable, but that ideal rarely works out. The change from the communist system to a capitalist one was required for China to have any sort of power. Ideally in a capitalist system, you are judged on your own merit, and while it doesn't always work either, the ideal is matched more often than the communist ideals

Alex Bair · Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Deadfield, MA

I agree with Jaehyouk. The problems with the factories could escalate to a greater level. When I was writing my paper, I didn't even think about what he said. I think that this is very important to think about now. Factory owners typically think about their profits over conditions because they want to stay in business and stay competitive. He is also right about the fact that taking care of the citizens will keep China from being taken down. There wouldn't be any reason for a war or a rebellion if there wasn't a major problem that everyone had. If China took care of all the workers and gave them the conditions and other things that they wanted, things like the strike in the film wouldn't have happened. Yes it might slow down production and cause them to miss deadlines that they are given by the West, but there are still ways to stay competitive without abusing workers.
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mkim · Joined: 14 Feb 2011 Posts: 14

The China model made China into the "new mover and shaker," (143) with its fast economical development admired by other developing nations. It quickly gave China a new economic power that China had long lost, especially during Mao's time. Yet the successful model was possible because of China's "economic freedom plus political repression," (140) like mentioned in class today. The CPC promised its people the improvement on living standards and gained power, which in turn took away people's freedom. This made China into an "unfree nation" that "will grow so quickly that it will overwhelm free nations with their economic might." (142) Under CPC people gradually grew subordinate, and even "grown accustomed to, but not accepting of, widespread corruption." (143) Although the economic model brought China's rapid growth, by not letting people have a say and gain open knowledge, I feel like China is being held back from reformation.

meisler2013 · Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 6

There are definitely pros and cons of the China Model. The reading talk about doing everything to lift living standards and produce economic growth. The text also addressed the question I asked today in class (about whether China is shaped by demand or whether demands come because there Chinese system encourages it) and gives answers on both sides. It says that the system was created after the communist model's failure to promote business, as well as "much of China's business environment being negotiable. While the reading does touch upon many positives aspects of the CHina Model, the conditions and social interaction (that we observed in the documentary) that are its consequences, are not worth it and can be avoided.

Eric von Hippel · Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 23

i think that china's business model is good for the country and a select few people but it has the opposite effect on the majority of people. also even though it is good for the country that wants fast growth this business model requires constant growth to remain feasible, to continue these companies need to have the capital to start and to get the capital to start they have to get that money from a job but if no one is hiring then few new companies start and the system fails.

shwang2012 · Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Posts: 6

I agree with the general agreement that China definitely developed to the extent where other undeveloped countries envy, but had to take a lot of risks in order to do so. The thing about China Model is that, while the Communist regime constitute its political body, the economy is very capitalistic, if not super capitalistic because it operates based on infinite competition because there is no basic legal gadgets to protect workers or control factory managements.
Although such countries like India wish that they would have Communistic society where an authoritarian government can order whatever it wishes to accomplish by asserting its demand for the faster pace of economic growth and establishment of infrastructures, I think that this will eventually bring turbulance to the Chinese society because China would run into problems when it comes to defining what it believes in: Communism or Capitalism?
China may experience great privilege now, but it will overflow with distraught and contradiction, as we saw in the example of a young Chinese man who studied in the US becoming a nemesis for a liberal-minded individuals.

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